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#41 Kyelo

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Posted 13 March 2010 - 05:21 PM

Thing is with TITP and the slam tent is that one day they will have to change style away from techno, electro is much stronger at the moment with younger generations and in 10 or so years when the vintage T goers are well outnumbered techno just won't cut it with most.

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Posted 13 March 2010 - 05:40 PM

View PostFestie--Follower, on Mar 9 2010, 10:19 PM, said:

Heard the album. Utter pish, way mainstream compared to there early releases, like knobbers.

Was gona buy that, but gave it a quick listen beforehand. Ur right, Shite! was expecting the album to be full of tunes similar to there set at Rockness coz they had the place goin nuts. Just a bunch of poor songs with Hip-Hop artits etc etc. Seriously let down

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Posted 13 March 2010 - 06:19 PM

View PostHebn2themix, on Mar 13 2010, 05:40 PM, said:

Was gona buy that, but gave it a quick listen beforehand. Ur right, Shite! was expecting the album to be full of tunes similar to there set at Rockness coz they had the place goin nuts. Just a bunch of poor songs with Hip-Hop artits etc etc. Seriously let down

I'm not a massive fan of the album but it's not that bad. I'm actually more pleased with it than I would've been if they had stuck with the banger formula they've been pumping out for years already. It's a tired sound that's become terribly formulaic. Instead they made a decent album to listen to in the house, the car or whatever. Is it a great album? No but it's not terrible. An album full of bangers may as well just be released as singles in the current climate (see: Boys Noize "Oi Oi Oi").

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Posted 13 March 2010 - 06:52 PM

pretty disappointed with their album, pretty poor compared to their previous ep's, needs more basslines and the big build ups there known for

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Posted 13 March 2010 - 07:04 PM

View PostFannyBaws, on Mar 13 2010, 06:19 PM, said:

An album full of bangers may as well just be released as singles in the current climate (see: Boys Noize "Oi Oi Oi").


Oi Oi Oi is a million times better imo! brilliant, infact mite listen to it right now

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Posted 13 March 2010 - 11:51 PM

View PostHebn2themix, on Mar 13 2010, 07:04 PM, said:

Oi Oi Oi is a million times better imo! brilliant, infact mite listen to it right now
Aye, Oi Oi Oi is a masterpiece. This Crookers album would have been much better if it had tracks like Big Money Comin etc, although We Love Animals is a belter.

Anyone into Riva Starr?

Edited by Festie--Follower, 13 March 2010 - 11:51 PM.


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Posted 14 March 2010 - 05:01 PM

View PostBenchBuddah, on Mar 13 2010, 05:21 PM, said:

Thing is with TITP and the slam tent is that one day they will have to change style away from techno, electro is much stronger at the moment with younger generations and in 10 or so years when the vintage T goers are well outnumbered techno just won't cut it with most.

This is true, they have to move with times, obviously everyone isn't going to be happy but there really is a bit of somerthing for everyone on in The Slam.

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Posted 14 March 2010 - 05:05 PM

I think the Slam tent at T will be there is some shape or form for at least another 8 years.. but I can see a similar thing happen where they get several smaller tents offering various genres ala Glasto

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Posted 14 March 2010 - 05:13 PM

View PostPaul ™, on Mar 14 2010, 05:05 PM, said:

I think the Slam tent at T will be there is some shape or form for at least another 8 years.. but I can see a similar thing happen where they get several smaller tents offering various genres ala Glasto

That would be pretty good. Keep all the daft old ravers with there smiley faces T shirts and whistles in the one place. :P

Edited by rexclark, 14 March 2010 - 05:15 PM.


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Posted 14 March 2010 - 05:15 PM

View PostHebn2themix, on Mar 13 2010, 07:04 PM, said:

Oi Oi Oi is a million times better imo! brilliant, infact mite listen to it right now

View PostFestie--Follower, on Mar 13 2010, 11:51 PM, said:

Aye, Oi Oi Oi is a masterpiece.


I never said Oi Oi Oi was bad, I just used it as an example. The tracks on Oi Oi Oi are great but in reality it just plays like a bunch of singles thrown together, it's not got the flow of an album. It would've been served just as well or better being put out as three seperate EPs as oppossed to an album. That's not what an album's about IMO but we all have different opinions so i'll agree to disagree. It's like Deadmau5 saying in interviews that he's only now working on his "debut artist album" and that "Random Album Title" and "For Lack of a Better Name" were just compilation albums of his own work. That's the way I see "Oi Oi Oi", a good compilation of some great Boys Noize tracks.


View PostFestie--Follower, on Mar 13 2010, 11:51 PM, said:

Anyone into Riva Starr?

Defo, he'd be amazing for Rockness - he's on fire at the moment.
I'm pretty sure I heard he's playing the Sub Club sometime in June, can't wait to see him.

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Posted 14 March 2010 - 05:22 PM

View Postrexclark, on Mar 14 2010, 05:13 PM, said:

That would be pretty good. Keep all the daft old ravers with there smiley faces T shirts and whistles in the one place. :P



f**k  im that daft old raver ...lol.. :P  :P  :P

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Posted 14 March 2010 - 06:29 PM

View Post_rachelbon, on Mar 10 2010, 08:31 PM, said:

+1
+2, Bloody Beetroots are ahead of the game in Electro, crossover appeal and live expirience, and who has them?

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Posted 23 March 2010 - 02:14 PM

I guess we can probably rule out Groove Armada, DJ Yoda and Sven Vath for Rockness.
http://www.efestival...0/100323g.shtml

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Posted 23 March 2010 - 02:18 PM

View PostBenchBuddah, on Mar 13 2010, 05:21 PM, said:

Thing is with TITP and the slam tent is that one day they will have to change style away from techno, electro is much stronger at the moment with younger generations and in 10 or so years when the vintage T goers are well outnumbered techno just won't cut it with most.


The Electro thing is just a (horrible) fad .

It will pass.



Edit to add , when I say electro I'm talking about what gets passed off as electro today , not real electro.

Edited by Cosmo Kramer, 23 March 2010 - 02:27 PM.


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Posted 23 March 2010 - 02:20 PM

agreed about electro, not nice at all. techno has stood the test of time which i cant see this electro do.

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Posted 23 March 2010 - 02:51 PM

View PostBenchBuddah, on Mar 13 2010, 05:21 PM, said:

Thing is with TITP and the slam tent is that one day they will have to change style away from techno, electro is much stronger at the moment with younger generations and in 10 or so years when the vintage T goers are well outnumbered techno just won't cut it with most.

:P
what..... are you off your rocker?

please refer to juno's list of genres.

every genre is multiplied by 10, there is a house, vocal, dub, version of every genre. except one.

techno my friend will always cut it.

Jonny Hart Digital said:

techno my friend will always cut it.

you can take that to the bank

#57 Kyelo

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Posted 23 March 2010 - 03:21 PM

Like I said it's a generation thing.

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Posted 23 March 2010 - 04:18 PM

View PostBenchBuddah, on Mar 23 2010, 03:21 PM, said:

Like I said it's a generation thing.

This thread in general just pisses me off ! haha

T in the Park and Rockness are dealing with different markets,one is more established than the other, and one has more money to spend too ! They are not trying to steal anyone.. You like both festivals, go out and fish out on both!

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Posted 23 March 2010 - 04:23 PM

View PostKris Reid, on Mar 23 2010, 04:18 PM, said:

This thread in general just pisses me off ! haha

T in the Park and Rockness are dealing with different markets,one is more established than the other, and one has more money to spend too ! They are not trying to steal anyone.. You like both festivals, go out and fish out on both!
What about people who choose between them each year? For many people they are in direct competition. I have several friends who do this.

Even me, part of the reason I don't go to TITP is Rockness.

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Posted 23 March 2010 - 06:05 PM

View PostKris Reid, on Mar 23 2010, 04:18 PM, said:

This thread in general just pisses me off ! haha

T in the Park and Rockness are dealing with different markets,one is more established than the other, and one has more money to spend too ! They are not trying to steal anyone.. You like both festivals, go out and fish out on both!

Of course they are in the same market, they are the 2 major festivals in scotland and that puts them in direct competition with each other. Not everyone can afford both and i know loads of people that choose between them every year.
T is more established ans have more money like you said, but thats the reason why Rockness has to think differently, in order to compete! I don't neccesarily buy into the idea that both festivals are aimed at different crowds though, some people just like going to festivals regardless of acts!




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