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[HeyJoe-85]

This was my 3rd End of the Road, and I have to say the best one yet. I already can't wait for next year and whilst I hope they keep the capacity at 5000, I hope even more that they consider using a new security firm.
In the past EOTR has been the best festival in the country for many reasons, a major one being the friendly atmosphere and nature of the staff. This year, despite the stewards being helpful and friendly, the festival was let down by the aggressive and rude nature of the security. When troubles arose with getting to see the Fleet Foxes, they approached the situation like pub bouncers. I don't feel EOTR attracts any aggresive festival goers, so i'm not sure why we were treated like them. Also the people controlling the crowd capacity in the Tipi tent were rude, insulting and inaffective. A half empty Tipi tent refused to let any one in during Charlie Parr's set because it was obviously an easier option than clearing the pathway that would allow more in. I understand that in other enviroments they're jobs could be stressful, but with EOTR and it's audience, they were in no way in keeping with the feel of the festival.

Did anyone else feel this way or was it just me?

Still, a fantastic festival which I can't wait to return to next year!

[sadwitch]

I didn't have an issue with them.

I did however get fed up with the 2nd wristband check going into the garden stage, I didn't really see the point. If they're controlling numbers what's that got to do with wristbands? and if we've got into that area we must have a wristband on already surely? Only a tiny moan it was just a pain in the arse having to stop and dig out my wrist from under layers of clothes for me with the bloody crutches and for my sister who was laden with two people's gear all weekend.

[Fat_Buddha]

I also found the security chaps (as opposed to normal stewards) a bit rude and lumpen and I didn't like them one bit...............found their attitude a bit jarring really. I'm sure it's possible to look hard and still be civil.

[MattL80]

Didn't even notice them.

[bullybass]

I've seen much worse security, try going to Reading for example. However, I did find their attitude a bit off and agree about the way they were mismanaging the Tipi where they appeared to be doing a completely random none out 6 in, or 6 out none in kind of thing. However, the twat that threw a bottle at the stage during The Hold Steady proved that we will never be able to have a self-policing festival in the UK again - gone are those days. I thought it was good not having the Police on site, as they certainly tainted many people's weekend at Beautiful Days. As for the Stewards, I found them unbelievably friendly and helpful - so congrats to them!

[carrotrope]

Didn't really notice them at all, right until when we were leaving the site, when one of them had a barney with our taxi driver over where he could and could not pick us up from. Really though, I had no problems.

[Sipperana]

Didn't particualrly notice them until the end of the disco on the last night, when some people were trying to dance on the stage and they were getting very heavy handed and frankly humourless. Totally not in keeping with the spirit of EOTR. I don't know who employed them but they got the wrong people.

Knowing as I do a 6ft+ guy who is built like the proverbial brick one, and used to work as security at the NEC but is basically a big cuddly bear it is possible for security people to actually behave like something other than faceless (not to mention toothless) automata.

[Delgado]

I spoke to one security guy who said he didn't even know this kind of music existed.

He then told me he was gonna go and order "The Tallest Man In The Whole Wide World" (sic) from play.com cos he thought he was absolutely incredible.

I thought that was sweet.

[HeyJoe-85]

My point was more that a friendlier approach has work for the past few years at EOTR, and hopefully this is one festival that will never need to get close to the Reading style of policing. I also want to make it very clear, just how brilliant and helpful the stewards were. My complaint is not with them.

On a plus note it was nice to see that they got rid of the alcohol policy they introduced last year. Always good to be able to bring in your on booze. Still ended up spending most of my time with a Late Red in my hand. What a fantastic brew!!

Edited by HeyJoe-85, 16 September 2009 - 10:04 AM.

[Swindlebiscuit]

HeyJoe-85, on Sep 16 2009, 11:01 AM, said:

My point was more that a friendlier approach has work for the past few years at EOTR, and hopefully this is one festival that will never need to get close to the Reading style of policing. I also want to make it very clear, just how brilliant and helpful the stewards were. My complaint is not with them.

On a plus note it was nice to see that they got rid of the alcohol policy they introduced last year. Always good to be able to bring in your on booze. Still ended up spending most of my time with a Late Red in my hand. What a fantastic brew!!

To be fair, the alcohol thing last year wasn't a policy, just a misunderstanding. We were still allowed to take in alcohol for the majority of the fest last year.

[Infinite Jest]

I had no problem with them at any point, hardly noticed them to be honest, except:

At Fleet Foxes. I was trying to get in as well, and they were really unhelpful. You could hear people shouting 'tell us what's going on' and not getting anything back in response. And when we did get in, the place was fairly empty anyway.

So I'd suggest that the security could be a bit more relaxed and communicative in such situations, but really they weren't *that* bad (compare them to security at a club or something, they were great).

As for the idiot throwing things during HS (as well as the bottle thrown at the band someone threw a full cup of beer into the audience): is there any way he can get a life ban?

[HeyJoe-85]

Swindlebiscuit, on Sep 16 2009, 11:35 AM, said:

To be fair, the alcohol thing last year wasn't a policy, just a misunderstanding. We were still allowed to take in alcohol for the majority of the fest last year.

Really? I seem to remember there being signs up forbiding you. A blind eye was generally turned, but i'm pretty sure it was policy.

Edited by HeyJoe-85, 16 September 2009 - 01:43 PM.

[Swindlebiscuit]

HeyJoe-85, on Sep 16 2009, 02:42 PM, said:

Really? I seem to remember there being signs up forbiding you. A blind eye was generally turned, but i'm pretty sure it was policy.

According to the powers that be, there was a misunderstanding with the security co on the Friday, which lead to them thinking that alcohol wasn't allowed in the arena. However, from what I remember this was sorted by the end of Friday - I don't remember any signs.

[Hotcider]

Swindlebiscuit, on Sep 16 2009, 02:47 PM, said:

According to the powers that be, there was a misunderstanding with the security co on the Friday, which lead to them thinking that alcohol wasn't allowed in the arena. However, from what I remember this was sorted by the end of Friday - I don't remember any signs.

I don't remember any signs either. We weren't allowed to take drink in first thing but I think it was all sorted by the evening

[Elfy]

Sipperana, on Sep 15 2009, 10:47 PM, said:

Didn't particualrly notice them until the end of the disco on the last night, when some people were trying to dance on the stage and they were getting very heavy handed and frankly humourless.

Yep, the thing there was that, although security were "in the right", they could have handled the situation in a friendly manner, and they didn't. The guy who was causing them a problem was a bit drunk, but in good humour and didn't seem a troublemaker.

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Knowing as I do a 6ft+ guy who is built like the proverbial brick one, and used to work as security at the NEC but is basically a big cuddly bear it is possible for security people to actually behave like something other than faceless (not to mention toothless) automata.

Yay - Colin to head security next year

Agree with all comments about the stewards, they were fab and friendly, and I can't think of another festival where a steward might sit at his post playing banjo and harmonica

[allpointsnorth]

HeyJoe-85, on Sep 15 2009, 05:00 PM, said:

This was my 3rd End of the Road, and I have to say the best one yet. I already can't wait for next year and whilst I hope they keep the capacity at 5000, I hope even more that they consider using a new security firm.
In the past EOTR has been the best festival in the country for many reasons, a major one being the friendly atmosphere and nature of the staff. This year, despite the stewards being helpful and friendly, the festival was let down by the aggressive and rude nature of the security. When troubles arose with getting to see the Fleet Foxes, they approached the situation like pub bouncers. I don't feel EOTR attracts any aggresive festival goers, so i'm not sure why we were treated like them. Also the people controlling the crowd capacity in the Tipi tent were rude, insulting and inaffective. A half empty Tipi tent refused to let any one in during Charlie Parr's set because it was obviously an easier option than clearing the pathway that would allow more in. I understand that in other enviroments they're jobs could be stressful, but with EOTR and it's audience, they were in no way in keeping with the feel of the festival.

Did anyone else feel this way or was it just me?

Still, a fantastic festival which I can't wait to return to next year!

Can't say I really noticed the security. Were they even working during the day (aside from next to the 2 big stages)? I only noticed them checking for wristbands in the evening, even then no problem, far far better than the larger festivals.
Regarding the incident getting in to see the Fleet Foxes, I guess on these occasions you may perhaps need to be more assertive in controlling the crowd, people don't always do what you want especially if they are trying to see a favourite band and are worried about missing out. However I didn't witness the problems of people trying to get into see the Fleet Foxes so I don't know if anything really untoward happened.

[festyfan]

ive been to every eotr so far, and this was by far my best, as few as im aware the same security firm has been used every year, i think they do a great job, its good to see the same faces year in year out and im now on first name terms with a couple of them, gotta thank them for walking me to my tent when i was too wrecked to find it lol, and for giving my car a jump start on sunday night, remember guys they are there to work, we not all always happy and smiling at work, well im not anyway, thanks to everyone concerned with this years festy, sent me into the winter with a big smile, see you next year

[andy55]

I thought security were fine. We were stuck outside the Tipi waiting to get in to Blitzen Trapper, but they were very friendly and we had a good chat (very fine, really, when I consider I had been drinking for about 6 hrs by that point in the day).

Wish there had been more security walking around the camping on Sunday night - maybe they could have got the bunch of noisy arseholes to go to bed before 6.00am (and this in the nominal family camping field).

I was about 10 feet behind the bottle throwing idiot at The Hold Steady. He and his friends were fans of the band!!!

[pinktequila]

The firm was ESN security. I think they are the best security firm around, theirn regular staff are brilliant and I have worked with them a number of times. However, some extra staff are brought in for the festival which may not always judge things right, such as the Fleet Foxes where I think there was some confusuion as to what to do from a few areas because there was obviously space further in but a bottleneck had formed near to the entrance, I think security were not sure what to do at first. On the hole I think security were better that any other festival I have been to and I have had more than my fair share of run ins with them.

[Marion1]

As with the Larmer Tree Festival (July) security at the EOTR was always low key (previous 3 years), stewards organising the majority of control and doing a superb job at that!

This year I felt threated by the presence of "bouncer" style security. The fiasco we witnessed during the "Fleet Foxes" set was unbelievable, restricting festival goers entry only proved more antagonistic. Also agree with other comments, why was it necessary to show wrist bands again when entering the Garden Stage. Surely once is enough in a secure area that is the festival site

Please organisers, take note of comments in this forum post or risk loosing the calm, friendly atmosphere that is the EOTR

Marion