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[mooseman]

Didn't manage to get a ticket this year. I'm going to wait until mid august to see if there is another batch. If there is not should I buy a ticket from viagogo as they are an official partner of the festival I presume that they are safe and legit. Has any one used them before or had any experience with the company, any help would be appreciated.

[bigadabigadabong]

I second the motion for info on viagogo. It does seem very reputable though, I dont think festival republic would actually reference it as the official reseller otherwise. To be honest, I'm just wondering why the hell anyone is buying tickets on ebay? I mean they're slightly cheaper on viagogo from what I can see and you get all the guarantees, odd.

[beLIEveR]

By using Viagogo, you're paving the way for ticket prices to start increasing at an even faster rate than they have been. You're also supporting people traffickers, terrorism, the firearms trade, paedophilia and prostitution.

You will however get your ticket.

Hope that helps

[thetime]

beLIEveR, on Jun 29 2009, 12:49 PM, said:

You're also supporting people traffickers, terrorism, the firearms trade, paedophilia and prostitution.

they only want a festival ticket!

[beLIEveR]

In spite of my obvious prejudice I feel I gave quite a balanced piece of consumer advice.

They're the lesser of many evils, but they're an evil nonetheless. The fact that Maggie's son was found guilty of an attempted coup d'etat, while she wasn't, doesn't make her any less of a vicious cow. And before someone else says it, yes, I am a vicious so and so myself.

There will be several more available for the normal price on See if you really care enough to check. Heck, there's a faint possibility I might have one available at the pre-sale price (i.e. below face value) and there will be scores of others in the same boat as me. If you're looking hard enough and make sure you take sensible precautions (meet them in person, in public, with someone you know), an opportunity will come around.

By buying from Viagogo, that means next year they can confidently buy/not sell the ticket you want in the knowledge that there is a market for that ticket. By not buying from touts, touts don't buy tickets, and you wouldn't be in this bind. It really is that simple.

[Im_in_a_tent]

beLIEveR, on Jun 29 2009, 02:10 PM, said:

In spite of my obvious prejudice I feel I gave quite a balanced piece of consumer advice.

They're the lesser of many evils, but they're an evil nonetheless. The fact that Maggie's son was found guilty of an attempted coup d'etat, while she wasn't, doesn't make her any less of a vicious cow. And before someone else says it, yes, I am a vicious so and so myself.

There will be several more available for the normal price on See if you really care enough to check. Heck, there's a faint possibility I might have one available at the pre-sale price (i.e. below face value) and there will be scores of others in the same boat as me. If you're looking hard enough and make sure you take sensible precautions (meet them in person, in public, with someone you know), an opportunity will come around.

By buying from Viagogo, that means next year they can confidently buy/not sell the ticket you want in the knowledge that there is a market for that ticket. By not buying from touts, touts don't buy tickets, and you wouldn't be in this bind. It really is that simple.

thats the worst piece of conumer advice ever, what about people who arnt touts that genuinly want to sell them on because they cant make it, viagogo is a perfectly good outlet to do this more so then ebay, at least the company cares to help you not get scammed

[Dropkick Murphy]

Sell them on Scarlet Mist for face value. Selling on Viagogo makes money for Viagogo and as they are an official partner of Leeds/Reading it means that Festival Republic will be getting more money for a ticket they have already sold. Its disgusting. They are trying to make out that they are helping people who need a ticket but its just a money making scam.

If Festival Republic were that bothered about this, bothered about allowing people with geniune reasons for not being able attend the festival to sell their ticket, then they would not make a profit from this and only allow tickets to be bought/sold at face value. I'm guessing 90% of the tickets that Viagogo sell are for touts... how do I know this? Because there were hundreds of tickets for sale on the the night the tickets became available in March.

Unfortuantely, Melvin Benn and Festival Republic are greedy bastards who are helping line the pockets of touts whilst making more money on tickets which they have already sold in March!! However, as there is a huge market for this, Festival Republic will be rubbing their grubby hands in glee as they will continue to do this every year as they know people will pay over the odds for tickets and they can take advantage of this. Makes me sick.

Festival Republic are not touts, they are worse. They are condoning, assisting and making money from touting activity.

Edited by Dropkick Murphy, 29 June 2009 - 03:36 PM.

[Im_in_a_tent]

did you not read this thread posted a while back?

http://www.efestival...hl=scarlet mist

at the end of the day i'd rather have the guarentee of at the very least getting my money back and goto the festival rather then running the risk of getting mugged off

[Dropkick Murphy]

OK, which is why Festival Republic needs to make Scarlet Mist their 'official partner' and guarantee tickets or money back without scamming people out of more money. But at the end of the day Festival Republic is a company intent on making as much money as possible and couldn't give a shit about the fans.

In fact, if they really gave a shit about thr fans, they would introduce a registration and ID process like Glastonbury, but they won't do this. They just moan on and say the government should intervene when it's clear that by having a registration process, touting stops. Festival Republic is just a money making machine, whereby Glastonbury cares about its fans.

But like beLIEveR said, if you are patient and attentive enough you will get a ticket after the day they have 'sold out'. There has been a number of occasions where tickets have been onsale since their 'sell-out' date this year. You just need to keep checking the website, eFestival Forums and ringing through.

But it shouldn't be this way. If touts were eradicated, either by a registration process or by making it illegal to re-sell tickets, you would not have a problem in getting a ticket.

[beLIEveR]

Im_in_a_tent, on Jun 29 2009, 05:08 PM, said:

did you not read this thread posted a while back?

http://www.efestival...hl=scarlet mist

at the end of the day i'd rather have the guarentee of at the very least getting my money back and goto the festival rather then running the risk of getting mugged off

As a buyer, Scarletmist is perfect unless you are naive. I say that with the greatest respect to those who have been ripped off (and me being respectul is frigging unprecidented), but ultimately they have without exception been ripped off through a lack of vigilance.

As a seller, the power is in your hands, and again you are only going to lose out if you are naive.

I'm glad you pointed to that post, because it's very good advice.

Viagogo is "foolproof" because their margin (~25% of the transaction) means they can afford to turn around to a buyer and say "sod it, we'll give you back what you paid, you're missing the event though." But this margin drives the price up even further than if you were to buy from a t*t in person, and you certainly won't get that money back in time to attempt to buy an alternative.

[Messi30]

Viagogo has weekend tickets on there for 500 pounds, and these are an official partner! (in crime)  

[beLIEveR]

Even for touts, £500 is ridiculous.

£350 would have been considered "above the going rate" in each of the last two years, and there really isn't anything in this year's lineup that puts it head and shoulders above the last two.

[bigadabigadabong]

Scrub my previous comment, I have seen the error of my ways with Viagogo. The cheaper prices are all auctions with at least 40days to go so no doubt they'll end up astronomical. Also what they dont make obvious until you actually go through to buy the tickets is the handling fee which on 2 £235 tickets was £87. Ridiculous. Scarlet mist it is then!

Edited by bigadabigadabong, 30 June 2009 - 08:08 AM.

[Im_in_a_tent]

the only way to stop people from selling like this is for festival republic to set up some sort of official refund scheme

IE if you cant make it anymore people can return the tickets to festival republic like 40 days before the festival who could then release another official batch for people who want to buy them

[beLIEveR]

But why would a profit driven organisation do that, when they're pocketing £40 per touted ticket?

FR aren't just condoning ticket touting, they actually are ticket touts.

I would dearly love to see someone take them to court over competition rules. There could be only one outcome.

[benissright]

Ebay charges about half the commission than viagogo does.

And if you use a credit card and pay pal, your ticket is as guarenteed as it is on viagogo. Meaning you can get your bloody money back!

FR are actually a touting organisation now. They seem to have misunderstood the difference between touts and scam artists, as they were suggesting that their partnership was to prevent ticket touting. No, it only prevents scam artists, it supports touting.

Sadly, viagogo's success has meant it is impossible that FR will become an ethical business in the next few years as they will look at their accounts and see a fairly large number next to "viagogo". 6 figure at a minimum.

[kaosmark2]

Btw, did anyone notice this part in the latest Seetickets newsletter:

"TICKETS SOLD OUT FOR YOUR FAVOURITE BAND? CAN'T ATTEND A SHOW?
The Concert Promoters Association have launched Officialboxoffice.com - The number one site online to buy and sell tickets securely. Full ticket details are always listed so you know exactly what you're getting for your money - and if it's not what you expect, your money back! Click here for details:
http://www.officialboxoffice.com "

Looks like this trend is spreading. c**ts.

[beLIEveR]

We could petition the government, but they're in the pay of various organisations and don't even have to disclose their second jobs.

We could take them to court, but the judges are firmly in the pocket of politicians.

You know what would really work? Organised, periodic gatecrashing of gigs whose promoters are allowing secondary ticket selling to take place.

I mean, lets say 2,000 people gatecrash a sold out, 5-10k venue. They would have no choice but to cancel the event and refund the money. And I'd like to see them try to arrest 2,000 people.

[kaosmark2]

beLIEveR, on Jul 3 2009, 10:31 AM, said:

We could petition the government, but they're in the pay of various organisations and don't even have to disclose their second jobs.

We could take them to court, but the judges are firmly in the pocket of politicians.

You know what would really work? Organised, periodic gatecrashing of gigs whose promoters are allowing secondary ticket selling to take place.

I mean, lets say 2,000 people gatecrash a sold out, 5-10k venue. They would have no choice but to cancel the event and refund the money. And I'd like to see them try to arrest 2,000 people.

So... most of them?

Edited by kaosmark2, 03 July 2009 - 08:57 PM.

[markeee]

beLIEveR, on Jun 29 2009, 08:32 PM, said:

Even for touts, £500 is ridiculous.

£350 would have been considered "above the going rate" in each of the last two years, and there really isn't anything in this year's lineup that puts it head and shoulders above the last two.

500 quid? wow, talk about stronging it

especially as we all know, there's quite a big chance that more tickets at the normal price will come out

UNLESS festival republic have given the remaining tickets to their 'partners' at Viagoo   to sell at hugely marked up prices, to make them a nice quick buck!

bigadabigadabong, on Jun 30 2009, 09:08 AM, said:

Scrub my previous comment, I have seen the error of my ways with Viagogo. The cheaper prices are all auctions with at least 40days to go so no doubt they'll end up astronomical. Also what they dont make obvious until you actually go through to buy the tickets is the handling fee which on 2 £235 tickets was £87. Ridiculous. Scarlet mist it is then!

87 quid handling on 2 tickets costring 235 each>? want it all dont they, want to charge a massive markup for tickets and an outrageous handling fee!