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[muddyslingbax]

Don't see what the issue is. Every event has an elitist component whether it be rider, backstage whatever, staying at the farmhouse etc etc.

Each to their own surely?  Afterall, there's enough talk on here about 'freedom'.

IF i had a property in Pilton I too would be offering something a little more for a little more.

[Mardy]

Lots of events have elitist compnents and I don't like them either, as I said, i despise the rise of corporate hospitality at football and that.

The idea that just because you have money you can avoid queues and not mix with the great unwashed etc is not something that sits very well with me in any setting, not just Glastonbury. It seems to go against pretty much everything I believe in.

People standing in second class compartments for long journeys while the first class ones are empty ain't really the way I want society to work.

[jollynolly]

If people are daft enough to pay the money thats their business. There have always been alternative ways to stay at Glasto tipi village, pod pads, trailer park and that god damn awful camp Korela (if thats what its called £5000 for the festival VIP area. This camp site is no different, I think its a way of Evis keeping the neighbors sweet so they can make a bit of money off the back of the festival.

[tonyblair]

Kaybee, on Apr 10 2009, 09:08 PM, said:

I might be being naive but SURELY that's per tent not per person?  Who would spend £800+ for five nights in a tent?  Seriously, that's BARKING.

must stop posting after I'm half way through a bottle of wine...  

[grumpyhack]

markeee, on Apr 11 2009, 04:42 AM, said:

gotta say i agree with all the above, not needed at all, the normal campsites are where it's at

my friend went in the VIP bit at reading for a bit or whatever it is, said it was dull as

and what's this about a monorail at glasto?! I didn't see any mr when i was there in 07

The Monorail is discussed in the Questions thread http://www.efestival...amp;hl=monorail

[llcoolphil]

Mardy, on Apr 11 2009, 07:25 AM, said:

same reason I don't like corporate hospitality at football, VIP sections in clubs, all the rest of it, it's just plain wrong. We're in this together all the way. Bringing a caravan/camper to Glastonbury is cool and totally different from camping in your own special section cos you don't want to mix with the riff-raff and having special security to keep the proles out.

Whilst Id be more in agreement than disagreement, are we actually all 'in this together'? I think efests gives an uncommon view of what the 'festival experience' is for most people. We might be open minded, up for meeting and camping with people we dont know, spending lots of time with people we've never met - but is everybody at the festival? I think the vast majority come with a group of mates and pretty much stick with that group of mates. Yeah, there might be a chat here or a pint there with people you dont know, but, in the main, Im not sure its this 'all in it together' festival love-in we like to construct in our mind's eye.

[richybear]

As it's outside the festival away from everyone surely the atmospere is weakened, so if someone wants to camp in that campsite it's their loss not ours  , so my thought of the day is:

If you camp outside the festival in another campsite you will lose the atmospere and lose what the festival is all about, for a better time camp with us lot *inside the festival*, we rock  

[Mardy]

llcoolphil, on Apr 11 2009, 11:32 AM, said:

Whilst Id be more in agreement than disagreement, are we actually all 'in this together'? I think efests gives an uncommon view of what the 'festival experience' is for most people. We might be open minded, up for meeting and camping with people we dont know, spending lots of time with people we've never met - but is everybody at the festival? I think the vast majority come with a group of mates and pretty much stick with that group of mates. Yeah, there might be a chat here or a pint there with people you dont know, but, in the main, Im not sure its this 'all in it together' festival love-in we like to construct in our mind's eye.

yeagh, I agree with what you're saying about it, my 'all in together all the way' was more a throwaway comment about society generally, rather than Glastonbury. It's early, I need more coffee before I can start to type clearly  

[sungubala]

What you've also got to remember is that even ON-SITE at festivals there are exclusive campsites.  They're not even marked on the maps half the time.  Mostly they're for performers and staff - but these days money gets you anywhere.  I've encountered hundreds of people saying they'd simply bought their way into the exclusive sites.  

Nothing new, its money for the festival so they bite people's hands off for it!

[r0cky]

Mardy, on Apr 11 2009, 07:25 AM, said:

same reason I don't like corporate hospitality at football, VIP sections in clubs

All of the VIP areas that I've been to in clubs and festivals have been so boring, it was unbelievable.  Useful to nip into for cleaner toilets, or less queues though.

[Mardy]

sungubala, on Apr 11 2009, 12:18 PM, said:

What you've also got to remember is that even ON-SITE at festivals there are exclusive campsites.  They're not even marked on the maps half the time.  Mostly they're for performers and staff - but these days money gets you anywhere.  I've encountered hundreds of people saying they'd simply bought their way into the exclusive sites.  

Nothing new, its money for the festival so they bite people's hands off for it!

yep, don't mean it's right though

[meatyparson]

tonyblair, on Apr 10 2009, 08:44 PM, said:

the tipi 'field' has become rather exclusive too

dunno what to think really. These people must have paid something for the 'special facilities' and if it means helping the festival with some of it's costs, then I s'pose it's ok. It's stupidly expensive for what you get though, those prices are per person, so for ten people in the Montana, it'll be £8,450!!!!.. in a tent... without any extras (that's your ticket not included either)!!!..

there's a couple of other options like this too now, isn't there?

In an ideal world, it wouldn't be happenin'....

No mate its only 845£ for a 10 man tent, its not per person.

The prices are reasonable if people want that sort of thing.

I dont see the problem with it, its no different to the TIPI field or Tangerine fields etc.

[kaisherz]

If people want to do it, then so be it.

But it doesnt seem like fun for me, more than likely being stuck in a field full of upper class mincers moaning about the noise levels when you get back at 4am.

And I do think the prices are ridiculous when coupled with the £180 you have to pay for your festival ticket.

Regardless of the prices, Give me Pennards any day........

Edited by kaisherz, 11 April 2009 - 01:13 PM.

[tazzyb]

scaryclaireyfairy, on Apr 10 2009, 08:47 PM, said:

in an ideal world, i'd hire a large man for the weekend to carry my stuff for me.  and possibly do the driving.  it'd still be cheaper than hiring one of their poxy tents!

I have often said I wish I caould pay someone to lug all my stuff from the car to where I want to camp.

Kaybee, on Apr 10 2009, 09:29 PM, said:

Hair straighteners, anyone?

lol I will be camped with the rest of you BUT I will have my hair straighteners, they are essential for my fringe.  Sorry

Mardy, on Apr 11 2009, 08:22 AM, said:

People standing in second class compartments for long journeys while the first class ones are empty ain't really the way I want society to work.

So whats your thoughts on business class and First class on airlines.  Or is that okay because even if your in economy you still have a seat?


I would never go for camp kerala? or this new one but think if you want to pay the money and its how you want to spend the festival go for it.  I suspect ME allows it either to be considerate to neighbours, a pay back for the use of some of their land, or they give him a shit load of money which helps pay for stuff in the festival.  

Which ever it is I do not really care.  It does not impact on me in any way.  I can still camp where I want and do what I want.  Also I actually prefer the fact that the people who want to use these kinds of sites can.  That way they are not camped next to me and forcing me to listen to their complaining.

Was forced to listen to an all night argument at V one year.  A couple arrived and set up a tent then went off.  Returned with some american bird who went on and on and on and on about how disgusting it was and she had expected a wood cabin.  It was the bloody first night and it had not even rained!!!!

In the end the girlfriend made her boyfriend pack everything up and they left.  He must have been gutted did not get to see one band they were gone by 9am on the Saturday.  Poor lad spent hours begging his misses to let him drive her mate home and come back, but she kept saying she could not do that to her mate, she was only in the country for 2 weeks blah blah blah

Me being me cannot keep my mouth shut and had gone over the night before and told the American to sod off then and let the rest of us have our fun.

[Staberinde]

tazzyb, on Apr 11 2009, 05:18 PM, said:

So whats your thoughts on business class and First class on airlines.  Or is that okay because even if your in economy you still have a seat?

That's a fair point, the company's that pay ( an effing lot) more, and rich people that pay (a ridiculous amount) more keep the likes of me paying cheaper fares in the bucket seats.

tazzyb, on Apr 11 2009, 05:18 PM, said:

<snip>  I suspect ME allows it either to be considerate to neighbours, a pay back for the use of some of their land, or they give him a shit load of money which helps pay for stuff in the festival.<snip>

I was going to raise that same point. Earlier in the thread someone said the camp site was on a neighbours land. I can easily imagine said neighbour kicking up a fuss and threatening to withdraw the use of his land already used as part of the site if ME didn't give him an exclusive entrance.

In all fairness we don't know the arrangements and who's making all the dosh.

As for some people paying a lot more so they don't have to carry a tent and sleep outside the site ! (idiots) it's no big deal, Glasto over the years to me keeps getting better and better.

P.S. My heart goes out to that poor guy with the bitchy GF and American friend !

[minkitzka]

I've had a good look at the site and it really isn't in Camp Kerala's league, you're looking at around £100 per person when you add on the VAT. For some people, that's a lot, and for others, it obviously isn't... think of the huge quantities of really good kit that folks leave behind nowadays, last year proved that it isn't just because of the bad weather . You could argue that if you're going to buy a brand new tent and leave it every year, you might as well rent one.

I can see a facility like that being handy for people with health or mobility problems, as far as I can see the car park is close to the campsite so no lugging your gear across the site. It's probably quieter at night, and again that could be handy for some.

I wouldn't stay in it personally, but it could have its place.

[Boris]

I'm not comfortable with the direct access onto the Sacred Space. Just seems wrong. Will they have a couple of stones reserved by bouncers?

[tazzyb]

Staberinde, on Apr 11 2009, 07:05 PM, said:

P.S. My heart goes out to that poor guy with the bitchy GF and American friend !

lol I swear it took me a vast amount of self control not to go and slap her!!

[paulo999]

It's possible the entrance will be top of Pennards, rather than straight into Kings Meadow. They're wording seems intentionally a little vague to me.

[rosstopher]

tazzyb, on Apr 14 2009, 07:22 PM, said:

lol I swear it took me a vast amount of self control not to go and slap her!!

lol i would have. well i wouldnt, i would have got one of my female friends to do it for me lol morals and all that, a wood cabin? seriously what did she think it was haha