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#6961 t8yman

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 09:19 AM

View Posttheampersanddevil, on 05 February 2012 - 08:17 AM, said:


I've read the book and never saw the film. I keep meaning to, but with a few exceptions I never really like films after reading the book.

The book expressed a lot of the things people take for granted about becoming or being a parent. Partly summed up by the Ed Byrne joke '..she had the look of a woman who gave up her career to have kids and the kids turned out to be shite.' Quite a controversial subject and I remember the author getting a lot of criticism at the time, partly due to the fact that he was a bloke.

Is the focus of the film different?


that wasnt how I saw it, in the movie - he is a first class c**t before he can even speak. she is just a bit short tempered.

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 09:28 AM

View Posttheampersanddevil, on 05 February 2012 - 08:17 AM, said:



I've read the book and never saw the film. I keep meaning to, but with a few exceptions I never really like films after reading the book.

The book expressed a lot of the things people take for granted about becoming or being a parent. Partly summed up by the Ed Byrne joke '..she had the look of a woman who gave up her career to have kids and the kids turned out to be shite.' Quite a controversial subject and I remember the author getting a lot of criticism at the time, partly due to the fact that he was a bloke.

Is the focus of the film different?
Yes, in my opinion it is. However, when my mum read the book she was on the mum's side, so I guess it depends on the audience and their take on it? I don't think anyone would watch the film and be on kevin's side though? It very much portrays him as evil child and doesn't really tell you much about his mothers life before having him and how she really felt about giving it all up.

It's not a bad interpretation, It sticks to the story just maybe shows a different angle/perspective.

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 10:11 AM

View Posttheampersanddevil, on 05 February 2012 - 08:17 AM, said:


I've read the book and never saw the film. I keep meaning to, but with a few exceptions I never really like films after reading the book.

The book expressed a lot of the things people take for granted about becoming or being a parent. Partly summed up by the Ed Byrne joke '..she had the look of a woman who gave up her career to have kids and the kids turned out to be shite.' Quite a controversial subject and I remember the author getting a lot of criticism at the time, partly due to the fact that he was a bloke.

Is the focus of the film different?

The author is a woman

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 12:19 PM

lol.

well obviously wasn't valid critisicm then.

Just shows don't believe all you read.

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Posted 06 February 2012 - 12:36 PM

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Posted 06 February 2012 - 03:04 PM

Saw J.Edgar yesterday, was quite dissaponted. I was expecting more from Clint Eastwood and Di Caprio.

I think the movie drags to much, perphaps if it was around 30mins shorter it would have been better

#6967 Purple Monkey

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 09:44 AM

New Spidey


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Posted 07 February 2012 - 12:04 PM

I like the look of the new Spidey a lot! I'm convinced that his web shooters are flashing though... which is weird.

The new Avengers trailer has got me all excited too :)

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 02:16 PM

View PostG-Stud, on 07 February 2012 - 12:04 PM, said:

I like the look of the new Spidey a lot! I'm convinced that his web shooters are flashing though... which is weird.

The new Avengers trailer has got me all excited too :)

Yeah I really want to see it now. I love the fact he's a bit of a wise-cracker. At last.

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 02:17 PM

Killer Elite. Shite.

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 03:02 PM

View PostThe Nal, on 06 February 2012 - 12:36 PM, said:

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it's interesting what a good part in a great (cult) film does for an actors legacy...

(while acknowledging how good he was anyway)

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 07:09 AM

It seems weird that they are making a new spiderman but I can see why they are doing. It's mainly because Marvel have seen how well DC have done with Batman/The Dark Knight. Tbh The dark knight in my opinion is the best superhero film ever and I'm sure a lot would agree. I can't wait for Spiderman though. It looks great and it's good that Andrew Garfield can act. Toby McGuire was shocking.

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 10:00 AM

View PostBanana Co, on 10 February 2012 - 07:09 AM, said:

It seems weird that they are making a new spiderman but I can see why they are doing. It's mainly because Marvel have seen how well DC have done with Batman/The Dark Knight. Tbh The dark knight in my opinion is the best superhero film ever and I'm sure a lot would agree. I can't wait for Spiderman though. It looks great and it's good that Andrew Garfield can act. Toby McGuire was shocking.

Not really, they are making it as to continue with Sam Raimi and co would of costed a lot more and they need to make a Spiderman film every now and then otherwise the rights will go back to Marvel.

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 08:55 AM

View PostBanana Co, on 10 February 2012 - 07:09 AM, said:

It seems weird that they are making a new spiderman but I can see why they are doing. It's mainly because Marvel have seen how well DC have done with Batman/The Dark Knight. Tbh The dark knight in my opinion is the best superhero film ever and I'm sure a lot would agree. I can't wait for Spiderman though. It looks great and it's good that Andrew Garfield can act. Toby McGuire was shocking.

I like McGuire as an actor - it's just that he was cast as 1960's Peter Parker. Fair enough, Sam Raimi was a fan of that version, he's the director, he gets to choose that. But the problem for me seemed to stem from the difference between Peter's old fashioned movie mindset and the setting of contemporary New York. All the characters seemed cartoony, which is still entirely valid, fair enough.

For me, Peter Parker is far more like Marty McFly in Back To The Future, even Kick-Ass was more like Peter Parker currently is and this new one looks like it is going for that kind of tone.

The crucial thing with Spider-Man is you have to buy Peter Parker as a realistic character first, the whole premise rests on the idea that he was an average human being from this world - not an alien from a dying planet, or a rich billionaire or an Amazonian Princess. If he seems entirely fictional from the outset it removes the impact of his superheroics.

They are just copying the Dark Knight template, which is painfully obvious (start with lesser known villains to make it feel fresh while saving the revised arch villains for a later installment). Even down to the crafting his own gadgets and by the looks of it his suit is going to have a "realistic" explanation explaining why it looks less like a garment he created and more like something that he bought in a sports shop and stitched together. What's the bet that there will be something like in Begins where Pete tries to fight crime in more regular-looking sports clothes and finds problems with it (like it gets snagged on something because it's baggy) where he decides he needs something more suitable? Raimi's Spidey costume, as loyal as it was, was daft because, unlike Superman who wears a Kryptonian uniform or Batman who can afford a proper costume, Spider-Man is meant to be a poor kid, with nothing.

And, there's always a chance that Ifans' Curt Conners will be back as a recurring character like in the comics where he becomes Pete's confidant and helps him out with with science-based problems (which bring me hope that Venom and Doc Ock are on the horizon - Venom is highly likely considerring Pete's parents are a big deal in this new film)

Edited by Purple Monkey, 13 February 2012 - 09:28 AM.


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Posted 13 February 2012 - 03:59 PM

R.I.P. David Kelly. One of the all time Irish great actors.



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Posted 14 February 2012 - 09:03 AM

Went to see The Woman In Black last night. Thoroughly enjoyed it and was seriosuly creeped out at parts!

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 08:25 PM

Caught a Spanish film called "Cell 211". From the name it is a prison siege thingy with a slight twist near the end. Really enjoyed it. Just waiting on the release of another Spanish film, Rec3.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 10:56 PM

Treated myself last week to the 'Alien Anthology' blu-ray last week [Got it for £11.99].

Watched 'Alien' Last night and now tonight I am going to watch 'Aliens'.

Never seen it before for some reason. Going with the special edition verision!

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 11:26 PM

Surprised no one has mentioned the BAFTA's in here yet.

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 08:37 AM

View Postmetallimuse, on 15 February 2012 - 11:26 PM, said:

Surprised no one has mentioned the BAFTA's in here yet.
I never take any interest in awards for films. In fact I usually avoid films with "Nominated for ......" or "Winner of ......" on the cover. Wind you I was pleasantly surprised a number of years ago with Crash.




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