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  1. Download 2018

    I don't see Architects getting much bigger. If Parkway Drive are booked in the right slots and managed well then the sky is the limit with them I think, could headline Download one day I think.
  2. Download 2018

    I was there. I left halfway through Biffy to catch Zombie. That was one of the smallest crowds for a headliner I've ever seen at Download. ADTR seemed alright levels for a sub especially given some of the crowds that day but AFI 3rd down was pretty sparse too. I'm not saying don't book BMTH to headline, don't have Shikari sub, don't have Parkway and Architects 3rd and 4th down etc, but do it in a smart way that is best for the bands future at the festival. I think with Architects and Parkway Drive you have two bands who struggle for credibility with large portions of the Download audience. Some of this is because they just don't like the music, fine, but a lot of it is to do with how those bands are perceived as emo metal/shit for kids, whereas if they actually listened to that latest Parkway Drive album they'd hear a lot of influence from the bands that they themselves like. I think with both of those bands you have two bonafide heavy bands that are both very good live and the festival could do with rising up the ranks, but as neither of those bands are as commercial as a BMTH, some of it needs to come from a heavier audience/casual Download goer. Having those two bands under a headliner like BMTH and a sub like Shikari does nothing for them at all because the average punter wont give them the time of day and you'll see the same "The Saturday is just absolute shite full of emo crap again".
  3. Download 2018

    I think Shikari could probably sub based on some of the headliners in recent years, but I think them subbing BMTH would go down like a sack of shit, not sure it would have people rushing out to buy tickets as didn't those two on the same bill fail to sell out The O2 for a Halloween show last year?
  4. Download 2018

    Well yeah, this Saturday did terrible numbers by all accounts. That's why they wouldn't go with it and why it wouldn't help Parkway Drive or Architects to play under BMTH and Enter Shikari. They'd do far better playing 3rd or 4th down under a Metallica or even an Avenged.
  5. Download 2018

    I think a "BMTH - Enter Shikari - Parkway Drive - Architects" top 4 would be the weakest and worst attended top 4 billing of any Download this decade. I think pretty much every one of those bands, especially Parkway and Architects would benefit being under a more mixed card or under a traditional Download headliner. I think when you stick all of those bands back to back it would lead to all of them being written off as crappy emo bands by large sections of the audience.
  6. Slam Dunk 2018

    I think it would be a bold move to book Frank Turner to headline after the majority of the UK Pop Punk Group threw their toys out of the pram when he got announced as the UK Blink support.
  7. Slam Dunk 2018

    I don't think it will be Architects as surely they end up playing Download. Parkway Drive makes sense for me if there's no album out before festival season, as they could headline Slam Dunk and then get a 3rd down/2nd stage headline slot off the back of that new album in 2019. 30 Seconds To Mars and ADTR waaaay too big (although A Day To Remember aren't headlining Download any time soon) and I can't see You Me At Six doing it again, even a nostalgic headline set would be fairly pointless since their 2015 one was. I reckon one of: Parkway Drive, All Time Low, Jimmy Eat World and Good Charlotte. Pierce The Veil maybe I don't know hopefully they're not big enough yet.
  8. Slam Dunk 2018

    I can see Parkway Drive headlining this
  9. Download 2018

    You're talking about a festival that didn't book BMTH to headline in 2016 because Rammstein, Maiden and Sabbath were available, even though both Rammstein and Maiden both played in 2013. The same festival that has booked Black Stone Cherry to headline 2nd against Slipknot twice in a row. The same festival that booked Aerosmith, Alter Bridge and Steel Panther with Dillinger headlining 3rd on Sunday in 2014, then booked the exact same thing this year. Just because Download has never had the same trio of headliners before doesn't mean it won't happen at some point, the small pool of headliners dictates that it probably will happen sooner rather than later. It's not like Guns N Roses, Metallica and Tool is going to get a flood of complaints is it? The loudest complaints they got this year was that they didn't book Guns N Roses and Metallica, whilst Tool won't haven't played the UK at all in over a decade. They're not going to bump any one of those 3 for Queens of The Stone Age.
  10. Download 2018

    There's no way that Copping wouldn't book Guns N Roses, Metallica and Tool just because they had that lineup in 2006. That would be a mad lineup. Tool would sell more tickets than QOTSA anyway.
  11. Download 2018

    Queens Of The Stone Age are only more likely because they're the only one definitely with an album out and who will definitely be around with less interest from other festivals. BMTH might not have an album out or be touring or if they are touring might headline R+L. Tool might not have an album out and might not even come to the UK, but if they are up for coming to the UK and are up for playing Download, then Copping will book them no questions asked. You said the main reason QOTSA are likely is because they don't come around often, but Tool haven't even played a show in the UK since 2007. Since the last time Tool played in the UK and by the time Download 2018 rolls around, Queens Of The Stone Age will have had 5 UK tours, 3 Reading and Leeds appearances as well as performances at Glastonbury and Download.
  12. Download 2018

    If there's 1 headliner spot left to book and the choice of bands are Tool, Queens of The Stone Age and Bring Me The Horizon - you're not seeing Queens of The Stone Age or Bring Me The Horizon at Download next year.
  13. Download 2018

    I think they could do without QOTSA headlining it next year. Going forward they're gonna have to have them as a headliner sometimes as the headliner pool will be small, but think someone like BMTH would be a better fit for them at this point. Although if they want BMTH at R+L and can't get GNR, I guess Metallica, A7X and QOTSA isn't that bad.
  14. Download 2018

    Also just noticed this in the Old Forums.What's Coppo done this time?
  15. Download 2018

    That had nothing to do with Chase and Status subbing, they were a big deal at the time and they fit perfectly subbing under The Prodigy. You could make the argument against The Prodigy headlining, but you can only book what's available and Sonisphere was at least initially happening that year. If Sonisphere hadn't happened maybe they would've ended up with Kiss headlining instead of The Prodigy. They had Slash opposite so wasn't exactly a bad year or a write off of a day. They could book Guns N Roses, Metallica and The Prodigy for next year and that wouldn't exactly be a bad year, would it? Not sure why you're listing 2012 as a lineup that was poor as it is the same lineup that had Soundgarden and Biffy Clyro subbing. Wasn't it Machine Head, Tenacious D and Megadeth playing 3rd down - not exactly cheaping out?
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